Roma 32 Bits vs Dallas 32 Bits

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Roma 32 Bits vs Dallas 32 Bits

Notapor ricard60 » 02 Sep 2015 17:07

Siempre me ha llamado la atención que Dallas 32 Bits en la lista de Elo activo siempre ha estado por encima de la Roma 32 Bits aun en la nueva lista sigue por encima aunque Dallas viene bajando el Elo.

73 Mephisto Dallas 68020 F 2094 59 59 103 52.4 % 2077 23.3 % -12
81 Mephisto Roma 68020 R 2076 41 41 234 51.3 % 2067 17.9 % -1

Dallas con menos de la mitad de los partidos jugados que la Roma su Elo puede variar mas que el de la Roma. En el Elo Blitz Meca
tenemos:
29 2105 Mephisto Roma 68020 14 MHz 27 2085 20
32 2099 Mephisto Dallas 68020 14 MHz 8 2098 1

Aca la diferencia es marginal solo 6 puntos , claro también lo mismo Dallas tiene menos de la tercera parte de los partidos jugados que la Roma.

Como tengo ambas Mysticum andando decidi hacer un match a 6 partidas; 3 partidas muy rapidas de 3 seg/jugada ,5seg/jug y 10 seg/jug. Luego una de 20 seg/jug y finalmente 2 partidas mas lentas de 1 min/jug. Yo había probado a Dallas pero acelerada a 40 MHz igual Roma. Este Match es a su velocidad original de 14 MHz.
[Event "Computerschach"]
[Site"Mysticum"]
[Date "2015.08.30"]
[Time "17:36"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Roma 32 Bit"]
[Black "Dallas 32 Bit"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Result "1-0"]

1.e2e4 {+00.00} e7e5 2.Ng1f3 {Buch} Nb8c6 3.Bf1b5 {Buch} a7a6 4.Bb5a4 {Buch} Ng8f6 5.O-O{Buch} Nf6e4 6.d2d4 {Buch} b7b5 7.Ba4b3 {Buch} d7d5 8.d4e5 {Buch} Bc8e6 9.Nb1d2 {Buch} Ne4c5 10.c2c3 {Buch} d5d4 11.Bb3e6 {Buch} Nc5e6 12.c3d4 {Buch} Ne6d4 13.Nf3d4 {+00,00} Qd8d4 14.Nd2f3 {+00,00/3_12} Qd4d1 15.Rf1d1 {+00,00} Bf8e7 16.Bc1e3 {+00,00/2_11} Nc6b4 17.Ra1c1 {+00,00} Ra8d8 18.a2a3 {+00,00} Rd8d1 19.Rc1d1 {+00,00/5_14} Nb4c6 20.Kg1f1 {+00,00/4_13} Nc6a5 21.Nf3d2 {+00,00/4_13} Na5c6 22.f2f4 {+00,00} h7h5 23.Kf1e2 {+00,00} Rh8h6 24.f4f5 {+00,00} Rh6h7 25.Nd2f3 {+00,00/3_12} Nc6a5 26.Nf3g5 {+00,00/2_11} Be7g5 27.Be3g5 {+00,00/5_14} Na5b7 28.b2b4 {+00,00/4_13} h5h4 29.Ke2f3 {+00,00/4_13} h4h3 30.g2g4 {+00,00/3_12} g7g6 31.f5g6 {+00,00/4_13} f7g6 32.e5e6 {+00,00/4_13} Nb7d6 33.Bg5f6 {+00,00} Nd6b7 34.Rd1c1 {+00,00} a6a5 35.e6e7 {+00,00/3_12} Nb7d6 36.Rc1c7 {+00,00/2_11} Rh7f7 37.g4g5 {+00,00/4_13} a5a4 38.Rc7c6 {+00,00} Rf7e7 39.Rc6d6 {+00,00/5_14} Re7d7 40.Rd6d7 {+00,00/3_12} Ke8d7 41.Kf3e3 {+00,00/6_15} Kd7d6 42.Ke3e4 {+00,00/4_13} Kd6e6 43.Bf6e5 {+00,00/4_13} Ke6f7 44.Ke4d5 {+00,00/4_13} Kf7e8 45.Kd5c5 {+00,00/7_16} Ke8f7 46.Be5f6 {+00,00/4_13} Kf7e6 47.Kc5b5 {+00,00/7_16} Ke6d5 48.Kb5b6 {+00,00/6_15} Kd5c4 49.b4b5 {+00,00/7_16} Kc4d5 50.Kb6c7 {+00,00/5_14} Kd5e4 51.b5b6 {+00,00/7_16} Ke4f3 52.b6b7 {+00,00/5_14} Kf3g2 53.b7b8=Q {+00,00/4_13} Kg2h2 54.Qb8e8 {+00,00/3_12} Kh2g3 55.Qe8g6 {+00,00/2_11} Kg3f4 56.Qg6h7 {+00,00} Kf4g3 57.g5g6 {+00,00} Kg3g2 58.g6g7 {+00,00/3_12} 1-0


[Event "Computerschach"]
[Site"Mysticum"]
[Date "2015.08.30"]
[Time "19:09"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Dallas 32 Bit"]
[Black "Roma 32 Bit"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1.e2e4 c7c5 {Buch} 2.Ng1f3 d7d6 {Buch} 3.Bf1b5 Bc8d7 {Buch} 4.Bb5d7 Qd8d7 {Buch} 5.O-O Nb8c6 {Buch} 6.d2d4 c5d4 {Buch} 7.Nf3d4 g7g6 {Buch} 8.Nb1c3 Bf8g7 {Buch} 9.Bc1e3 Ng8f6 {+00,00} 10.Nd4c6 Qd7c6 {+00,00} 11.f2f3 O-O {+00,00} 12.Qd1d2 Rf8c8 {+00,00/3_12} 13.Qd2f2 b7b6 {+00,00} 14.Ra1d1 Ra8b8 {+00,00/3_12} 15.Rd1d2 Rc8c7 {-00,32/2_11} 16.a2a4 Rc7c8 {-00,24} 17.Qf2e2 Rb8b7 {-00,36} 18.Qe2b5 Nf6d7 {+00,00} 19.Qb5c6 Rc8c6 {+00,00} 20.Be3d4 Nd7e5 {+00,00/4_13} 21.b2b3 Rc6c8 {+00,00/4_13} 22.Nc3e2 Rb7c7 {+00,00/2_11} 23.c2c4 Bg7h6 {+00,00/3_12} 24.f3f4 Ne5d7 {+00,00/3_12} 25.Ne2c3 Nd7c5 {+00,36/2_11} 26.Bd4c5 b6c5 {+00,36/4_13} 27.Nc3d5 Rc7b7 {+00,36/4_13} 28.a4a5 Bh6f8 {-00,16/2_11} 29.Rf1b1 Bf8g7 {-00,16/4_13} 30.a5a6 Rb7d7 {-00,16/4_13} 31.e4e5 Kg8f8 {-00,16/3_12} 32.Rd2e2 d6e5 {-00,16/2_11} 33.f4e5 Rc8c6 {-00,16/4_13} 34.b3b4 c5b4 {-00,16/3_12} 35.Rb1b4 Rd7d8 {-00,16/4_13} 36.Rb4b7 Rc6c4 {-00,16/3_12} 37.Nd5e7 Rd8e8 {-00,16/3_12} 38.Ne7d5 Bg7e5 {-00,16/4_13} 39.Re2e1 Be5h2 {-01,96/2_11} 40.Kg1f1 Re8d8 {-01,96/3_12} 41.Nd5e3 Rc4c7 {+00,00/2_11} 42.Re1b1 Rd8d2 {-02,45/2_11} 43.Ne3g4 Bh2g3 {-02,76/2_11} 44.Rb7c7 Bg3c7 {-02,76/5_14} 45.Rb1b7 Bc7b6 {-02,76/4_13} 46.g2g3 Kf8g7 {-02,76/4_13} 47.Ng4e5 Rd2f2 {-03,32/2_11} 48.Kf1e1 Rf2f5 {-03,32/4_13} 49.Ne5c4 Bb6f2 {-03,32/6_15} 50.Ke1f1 Bf2g3 {-03,32/4_13} 51.Kf1g2 Bg3f4 {-03,32/4_13} 52.Rb7a7 Rf5f6 {-03,32/4_13} 53.Ra7a8 g6g5 {-03,32/4_13} 54.a6a7 Rf6a6 {+00,00/2_11} 55.Kg2f3 h7h5 {+00,00/4_13} 56.Nc4b6 f7f5 {+00,00/4_13} 57.Nb6d5 Ra6a3 {+00,00/4_13} 58.Kf3e2 Ra3a2 {+00,00} 59.Ke2d3 Bf4g3 {-02,60} 60.Nd5e7 Ra2a3 {-02,60/3_12} 61.Kd3e2 f5f4 {-01,84/2_11} 62.Ra8g8 Kg7f7 {-01,84/6_15} 63.a7a8=Q Ra3a8 {-01,84/5_14} 64.Rg8a8 Kf7e7 {-01,84/6_15} 65.Ra8h8 g5g4 {-01,84/5_14} 66.Rh8h5 f4f3 {-01,84/5_14} 67.Ke2e3 Ke7f6 {-01,84/4_13} 68.Rh5d5 Kf6e6 {-01,20/2_11} 69.Rd5d4 Ke6f5 {-01,20/5_14} 70.Rd4d5 Kf5f6 {-01,20/4_13} 71.Rd5d1 Kf6e5 {-01,20/2_11} 72.Rd1g1 Bg3f4 {-01,12/5_14} 73.Ke3f2 Ke5f5 {-01,12/6_15} 74.Rg1f1 Bf4d6 {+00,00/2_11} 75.Rf1c1 Bd6e5 {+00,00/5_14} 76.Rc1c4 Kf5g5 {+00,00/3_12} 77.Rc4c5 Kg5f4 {+00,00/4_13} 78.Rc5c4 Kf4f5 {+00,00/6_15} 79.Rc4a4 Be5f4 {-01,04/3_12} 80.Ra4c4 Bf4h2 {-01,04/6_15} 81.Rc4c8 Kf5f4 {-01,04/3_12} 82.Rc8c4 Kf4g5 {-01,04/6_15} 83.Rc4c3 Bh2d6 {-01,04/6_15} 84.Rc3f3 Bd6c5 {-01,04/6_15} 85.Kf2g3 g4f3 {-01,04/7_16} 86.Kg3f3 Bc5d6 {-01,04/5_14} 1/2-1/2


[Event "Computerschach"]
[Site"Mysticum"]
[Date "2015.08.30"]
[Time "21:53"]
[Round "3-"]
[White "Roma 32 Bit"]
[Black "Dallas 32 Bit"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Result "0-1"]

1.d2d4 {+00.00} d7d5 2.c2c4 {Buch} c7c6 3.Ng1f3 {Buch} e7e6 4.e2e3 {Buch} Ng8f6 5.Nb1c3 {Buch} Nb8d7 6.Bf1d3 {Buch} Bf8d6 7.e3e4 {Buch} d5e4 8.Nc3e4 {Buch} Nf6e4 9.Bd3e4 {Buch} O-O 10.O-O{Buch} h7h6 11.Be4c2 {Buch} Nd7f6 12.Qd1e2 {Buch} c6c5 13.d4c5 {+00,28/2_11} Bd6c5 14.a2a3 {+00,28/3_12} Qd8c7 15.b2b4 {+00,36/2_11} Bc5e7 16.Bc1b2 {+00,36/3_12} Bc8d7 17.Qe2d3 {+00,55} Rf8d8 18.Bb2e5 {+00,64} Qc7c8 19.Be5f6 {+00,72} Be7f6 20.Ra1d1 {+00,72/2_11} Qc8c7 21.Rf1e1 {+00,08} Bd7c6 22.Qd3h7 {-00,45/2_11} Kg8f8 23.Bc2e4 {-00,45/2_11} Bc6e4 24.Qh7e4 {-00,84/2_11} Bf6c3 25.Re1f1 {-00,84/3_12} Bc3b2 26.Qe4c2 {-00,64/2_11} Bb2f6 27.c4c5 {-00,64/4_13} Ra8c8 28.Rd1d8 {-00,64/3_12} Rc8d8 29.Rf1d1 {-00,64/4_13} Rd8d7 30.Rd1d7 {-00,24/2_11} Qc7d7 31.a3a4 {-00,24/3_12} a7a6 32.a4a5 {-00,36/2_11} Kf8g8 33.h2h3 {-00,40/2_11} Qd7b5 34.Qc2b3 {-00,55/2_11} Kg8f8 35.h3h4 {-01,04/3_12} Qb5e2 36.g2g3 {-01,04/5_14} Kf8g8 37.Kg1g2 {-00,76/2_11} Qe2b5 38.Nf3e1 {-00,32/2_11} Kg8f8 39.Ne1d3 {-00,24/2_11} Qb5c6 40.f2f3 {-00,24/4_13} Qc6b5 41.Qb3c2 {-00,24/3_12} Kf8g8 42.h4h5 {-00,16/2_11} Kg8f8 43.Kg2f2 {-00,32/2_11} Bf6d4 44.Kf2g2 {-00,32/4_13} Kf8g8 45.Qc2b3 {-00,20/2_11} Bd4a1 46.Kg2f2 {-00,28/2_11} Ba1f6 47.Kf2f1 {-00,28/4_13} Kg8f8 48.Kf1g2 {-00,50/3_12} Bf6a1 49.Qb3c2 {-00,28/2_11} Ba1d4 50.g3g4 {-00,28/3_12} Bd4f6 51.Kg2f2 {-00,28/4_13} Qb5c6 52.Qc2c4 {-00,20/2_11} Qc6d7 53.Kf2e2 {-00,24/2_11} Qd7d5 54.Qc4e4 {-00,36/2_11} Bf6c3 55.Ke2e3 {-00,36/3_12} Qd5a2 56.f3f4 {-00,36/2_11} Qa2h2 57.Nd3f2 {-00,36/3_12} Bc3e1 58.Nf2d3 {-00,36/4_13} Be1d2 59.Ke3d4 {-00,36/3_12} Qh2g1 60.Kd4c4 {-02,16/2_11} Qg1d1 61.Nd3e5 {-03,50} Qd1a4 62.Kc4d3 {-02,60} Bd2b4 63.c5c6 {-02,60/2_11} Qa4b3 64.Kd3e2 {-02,72} b7c6 65.Qe4c6 {-02,04} Qb3a2 66.Ke2f3 {-01,92} Qa2d5 67.Qc6d5 {-01,92/4_13} e6d5 68.Ne5c6 {-01,92/6_15} Bb4d6 69.Kf3e3 {-00,88/4_13} Kf8e8 70.Ke3d4 {-00,68/4_13} Bd6f4 71.Nc6b4 {-00,68/6_15} Bf4d2 72.Nb4a6 {-00,68/6_15} Bd2a5 73.Na6b8 {-00,68/7_16} Ba5b6 74.Kd4d5 {-00,68/7_16} Ke8e7 75.Kd5c6 {-00,68/5_14} Bb6f2 76.Nb8d7 {-00,68/7_16} Ke7e6 77.Nd7f8 {-00,68/7_16} Ke6e5 78.Kc6d7 {-01,68/4_13} Bf2c5 79.Nf8h7 {-01,88/4_13} f7f5 80.g4g5 {-02,04/4_13} f5f4 81.Nh7f6 {-02,04/5_14} g7f6 82.g5h6 {-02,04/6_15} f4f3 83.h6h7 {-02,04/6_15} f3f2 84.h7h8=Q {-02,04/4_13} f2f1=Q 85.Qh8e8 {-02,04/4_13} Ke5f4 86.Qe8b8 {-04,24} Kf4f5 87.Qb8b3 {-04,24/2_11} Qf1e2 88.Qb3d5 {-04,24/3_12} Qe2e5 89.Qd5d3 {-04,24/4_13} Kf5g5 90.Qd3g6 {-04,24/4_13} Kg5f4 91.h5h6 {-04,24/2_11} Qe5d5 92.Kd7c7 {-04,64} Qd5d6 93.Kc7c8 {-04,64/3_12} Qd6c6 94.Kc8d8 {+00,00} Qc6e6 95.Kd8c7 {-04,64/2_11} Bc5b6 96.Kc7b7 {+00,00} Bb6d4 97.Kb7c7 {-04,72} Qe6e7 98.Kc7c6 {-04,72/3_12} Qe7c5 99.Kc6d7 {-04,72/3_12} Qc5b5 100.Kd7e7 {-04,68} Qb5d5 101.Qg6c2 {-09,99} Bd4c5 102.Ke7f6 {-04,04} Qd5c6 103.Kf6f7 {+00,00} Qc6d7 104.Kf7f6 {+00,00} Bc5d4 105.Kf6g6 {+00,00} Qd7e6 106.Kg6h5 {+00,00} Qe6g4 0-1

Luego el juego a 20 seg/jug donde fue muy parejo y donde las maquinas por momentos no sabían que hacer y hacían muchos movimientos de reyes.

[Event "Computerschach"]
[Site"Mysticum"]
[Date "2015.09.01"]
[Time "19:32"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Dallas 32 Bit"]
[Black "Roma 32 Bit"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1.d2d4 d7d5 {Buch} 2.c2c4 Nb8c6 {Buch} 3.Nb1c3 Ng8f6 {Buch} 4.Bc1g5 Nf6e4 {Buch} 5.c4d5 {Buch} Ne4c3 {Buch} 6.b2c3 Qd8d5 {Buch} 7.Ng1f3 Bc8g4 {Buch} 8.Qd1b1 O-O-O {Buch} 9.e2e4 Qd5a5 {Buch/4_13} 10.Bg5d2 Bg4f3 {Buch/3_12} 11.g2f3 e7e6 {Buch/3_12} 12.Bf1e2 Bf8e7 {+00,00} 13.f3f4 g7g6 {+00,00} 14.Qb1b3 Qa5a3 {+00,00} 15.O-O h7h5 {+00,00} 16.Rf1b1 Nc6a5 {+00,00/4_13} 17.Qb3a3 Be7a3 {+00,00/5_14} 18.Rb1b5 b7b6 {+00,00/3_12} 19.Ra1b1 Rh8g8 {+00,00/3_12} 20.Be2d3 f7f6 {+00,00} 21.Rb1d1 a7a6 {+00,00} 22.Rb5b1 b6b5 {+00,00/4_13} 23.e4e5 f6f5 {+00,00/2_11} 24.Bd3e2 Rg8g7 {+00,00} 25.Bd2e3 Rg7d7 {+00,00} 26.Kg1h1 Rd7g7 {+00,00/5_14} 27.Rd1g1 Rg7g8 {+00,00/3_12} 28.Kh1g2 Na5b7 {+00,00} 29.Kg2f1 Nb7a5 {+00,00/5_14} 30.Kf1e1 h5h4 {+00,24/2_11} 31.Ke1f1 Kc8d7 {+00,24} 32.h2h3 Kd7c8 {+00,00} 33.Kf1e1 Kc8d7 {+00,00/4_13} 34.Be2f3 Kd7c8 {+00,00} 35.Rb1d1 Ba3b2 {+00,00/2_11} 36.Ke1d2 Na5c4 {+00,00/2_11} 37.Kd2c2 Bb2a3 {+00,00/3_12} 38.Rg1g2 Rg8g7 {+00,00/3_12} 39.Rd1g1 Rd8g8 {+00,00/4_13} 40.Bf3h5 a6a5 {+00,00/3_12} 41.Rg2g6 Rg7g6 {+00,00/2_11} 42.Rg1g6 Rg8g6 {+00,00/5_14} 43.Bh5g6 c7c6 {+00,00/5_14} 44.Bg6h5 Ba3e7 {+00,00/6_15} 45.Bh5e2 Nc4b6 {+00,00/3_12} 46.Be3d2 a5a4 {+00,00/4_13} 47.Bd2e3 Kc8d7 {+00,00/2_11} 48.c3c4 b5c4 {+00,00/2_11} 49.Kc2c3 Be7d8 {+00,00/6_15} 50.Be2c4 Bd8e7 {+00,00/6_15} 51.f2f3 Nb6d5 {+00,00/6_15} 52.Bc4d5 c6d5 {+00,00/8_17} 53.Be3f2 Kd7c6 {+00,00/4_13} 54.Bf2e1 Kc6b6 {+00,00/7_16} 55.Be1d2 Kb6b5 {+00,00/3_12} 56.Kc3d3 Be7a3 {+00,00/7_16} 57.Bd2e1 Ba3e7 {+00,00/6_15} 58.Be1c3 Be7b4 {+00,00/7_16} 59.Bc3b2 Bb4e7 {+00,00/7_16} 60.a2a3 Be7f8 {+00,00/4_13} 61.Kd3c3 Bf8e7 {+00,00/8_17} 62.Bb2c1 Be7f8 {+00,00/7_16} 63.Kc3d3 Bf8e7 {+00,00/7_16} 64.Bc1b2 Be7f8 {+00,00/5_14} 65.Bb2c1 Bf8e7 {+00,00/5_14} 66.Bc1b2 1/2-1/2

Esta es la posición final de la partida 4:
[FEN "8/4b3/4p3/1k1pPp2/p2P1P1p/P2K1P1P/1B6/8 b - - 0 1" ]

Como se ve la posición esta bloqueada y ninguno de los reyes puede entrar a campo enemigo y las maquinas asi obraron entendiendo la posición quedando el partido tablas; después de 4 partidas el match va 2-2 quedando solo 2 partidas pero ahora a un mayor tiempo de reflexión. Tal vez estos dos programas son muy similares o veremos algo diferente cuando se emplee un mayor tiempo de reflexión?
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Re: Roma 32 Bits vs Dallas 32 Bits

Notapor ricard60 » 03 Sep 2015 15:50

Se efectuo el 5to partido ahora a 1 min/jug. Fue una apertura dama con las negras usando la defensa eslava que he visto en muchos libros de las maquinas dedicadas. El partido fue bastante parejo y fue solo en el final que se decidio.

[Event "Computerschach"]
[Site"Mysticum"]
[Date "2015.09.02"]
[Time "23:22"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Roma 32 Bit"]
[Black "Dallas 32 Bit"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Result "0-1"]

1.d2d4 d7d5 {+00.00} 2.c2c4 c7c6 {+00.00} 3.Ng1f3 Ng8f6 {+00.00} 4.Nb1c3 e7e6 {+00.00} 5.Bc1g5 h7h6 {+00.00} 6.Bg5f6 Qd8f6 {+00,16/2_11} 7.e2e3 Bf8e7 {+00,20/2_11} 8.Bf1d3 Nb8d7 {+00,20/3_12} 9.O-O b7b6 {+00,20/4_13} 10.c4d5 e6d5 {+00,20/3_12} 11.Qd1c2 Bc8b7 {+00,20/4_13} 12.Nc3e2 g7g6 {+00,20/3_12} 13.Ra1b1 O-O {+00,28/2_11} 14.Rf1c1 Be7d6 {+00,45/2_11} 15.Ne2g3 a7a5 {+00,45/2_11} 16.e3e4 Bd6g3 {+00,45/4_13} 17.f2g3 d5e4 {+00,45/4_13} 18.Bd3e4 Rf8c8 {+00,45/3_12} 19.Rb1a1 Kg8g7 {+00,28/3_12} 20.Rc1f1 Qf6e6 {+00,28/4_13} 21.Rf1e1 Rc8e8 {+00,28/3_12} 22.a2a3 f7f5 {+00,12/2_11} 23.Be4d3 Qe6d6 {+00,12/4_13} 24.Ra1c1 c6c5 {+00,12/3_12} 25.d4c5 Nd7c5 {+00,04/2_11} 26.Qc2c3 Kg7h7 {+00,20/3_12} 27.Bd3b5 Re8e1 {-00,12/2_11} 28.Rc1e1 Ra8d8 {+00,00/3_12} 29.Qc3c4 Bb7d5 {+00,00/3_12} 30.Qc4d4 Nc5e6 {+00,00/3_12} 31.Qd4c3 Bd5e4 {+00,00/4_13} 32.Qc3c4 Qd6e7 {+00,00/2_11} 33.Re1c1 Qe7f6 {+00,00/3_12} 34.Qc4c3 Qf6c3 {-00,24/3_12} 35.b2c3 g6g5 {-00,24/4_13} 36.Bb5c4 Ne6c5 {-00,24/6_15} 37.Bc4b5 Nc5b3 {-00,80/3_12} 38.Rc1e1 Nb3d2 {-00,80/4_13} 39.Nf3d2 Rd8d2 {-00,80/7_16} 40.Re1e2 Rd2d1 {-00,80/5_14} 41.Kg1f2 Rd1c1 {-00,80/4_13} 42.c3c4 Rc1c3 {-00,80/5_14} 43.a3a4 Kh7g7 {-00,64/4_13} 44.g3g4 Kg7f6 {-00,64/6_15} 45.g4f5 Be4f5 {-00,80/4_13} 46.Re2d2 Rc3c2 {-00,80/6_15} 47.Rd2c2 Bf5c2 {-00,80/7_16} 48.g2g3 Kf6e5 {-00,80/5_14} 49.Kf2e3 Bc2g6 {-00,80/6_15} 50.h2h4 Bg6h5 {-00,60/5_14} 51.Bb5a6 Bh5g4 {-00,60/6_15} 52.Ba6b5 Bg4e6 {-00,60/6_15} 53.Bb5a6 Ke5d6 {-00,60/7_16} 54.Ke3d4 Be6f7 {-00,60/8_17} 55.Ba6b7 Bf7e6 56.Bb7a6 {-01,84/6_15} Be6f5 {-00,64/6_15} 57.Ba6b5 Bf5g6 {-00,64/7_16} 58.Bb5a6 g5g4 {-00,64/6_15} 59.Kd4c3 Kd6c5 {-00,55/6_15} 60.Ba6b5 Bg6f5 {-00,64/7_16} 61.Bb5a6 Bf5d7 {-00,68/7_16} 62.Ba6b5 Bd7b5 {-00,68/10_19} 63.c4b5 h6h5 {-03,36/10_19} 64.Kc3d3 Kc5b4 {-03,36/10_19} 65.Kd3d4 Kb4a4 {-03,36/10_19} 66.Kd4c4 Ka4a3 {-03,36} 67.Kc4c3 a5a4 {-03,36/11_20} 68.Kc3c2 Ka3b4 {-03,36/9_18} 69.Kc2b2 a4a3 {-04,12/10_19} 70.Kb2a2 Kb4a4 {-04,12/11_20} 71.Ka2a1 Ka4b5 {-05,16/11_20} 72.Ka1b1 Kb5b4 {-05,16/10_19} 73.Kb1a1 Kb4b3 {-09,99/10_19} 74.Ka1b1 b6b5 {+00,00/10_19} 75.Kb1a1 b5b4 {+00,00/11_20} 76.Ka1b1 a3a2 {-09,99/10_19} 77.Kb1a1 Kb3c2 {-09,99/11_20} 78.Ka1a2 b4b3 {-09,99/9_18} 79.Ka2a3 b3b2 {-09,99/7_16} 80.Ka3b4 b2b1=Q {-09,99/4_13} 0-1

Luego de la jugada 62.Bb5 aparece esta posicion:
[FEN "8/3b4/1p5p/pBk5/P1P3pP/2K3P1/8/8 w - - 0 1" ]

y después de 62.. Bxb5 63.cxb5 h5 64.Kd3 Kb4 Roma esta perdida. Ambas maquinas estaban viendo 10 jugadas en fuerza bruta y 19 en búsqueda selectiva.

Dallas toma ventaja 3-2 con un juego restante.

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Re: Roma 32 Bits vs Dallas 32 Bits

Notapor eltaki » 04 Sep 2015 21:50

Misma potencia, programa parecido, el mas simple tiene ventaja. En algún tipo de posiciones, Roma saca ventaja sobre Dallas.

Sería interesante la partida perdida por Roma, jugarla con colores cambiados.

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Re: Roma 32 Bits vs Dallas 32 Bits

Notapor ricard60 » 17 Oct 2015 14:01

En el sexto juego y después de 105 jugadas aparece esta posición en el tablero:

[FEN "2N5/8/1p2knK1/2p5/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1"]

A golpe de vista todo parece que ganan negras (Roma) pero las blancas hacen la única jugada que hace tablas 106. Cxb6 quedando 5 piezas en el tablero pero como ni Dallas ni Roma tienen tablas de finales segui la partida hasta la jugada 150 donde ambas maquinas ya no hacían progreso sobre todo Roma que tenia el peon. Dallas con la función evaluadora y ver 7 jugadas en fuerza bruta y 16 en selectiva le era suficiente como para saber que este final de 5 piezas es tablas.

Gano Dallas 3.5 a 2.5 una diferencia minima. Al parecer estos programas son muy similares en fuerza. Seria interesante la experiencia que plantea eltaki de jugar la partida perdida por Roma con colores cambiados.

[Event "Computerschach"]
[Site"Mysticum"]
[Date "2015.09.13"]
[Time "20:48"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Dallas 32 Bit"]
[Black "Roma 32 bit"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1.e2e4 {+00.00} e7e5 2.Bf1c4 {+00.00} Ng8f6 3.d2d3 {+00.00} Nb8c6 4.Ng1f3 {+00.00} Bf8c5 5.Nb1c3 {+00.00} d7d6 6.Bc1g5 {+00.00} h7h6 7.Bg5f6 {+00.00} Qd8f6 8.O-O{-00,08/3_12} Bc8e6 9.Bc4e6 {-00,12/2_11} Qf6e6 10.Nc3a4 {-00,12/4_13} Bc5b6 11.Na4b6 {-00,24/3_12} a7b6 12.a2a3 {-00,24/3_12} O-O 13.Qd1d2 {-00,24/3_12} f7f5 14.Ra1d1 {-00,24/3_12} f5e4 15.d3e4 {-00,24/4_13} Ra8a5 16.Qd2d3 {-00,20/3_12} Kg8h8 17.c2c3 {-00,28/2_11} Rf8f4 18.Nf3e1 {-00,16/3_12} Qe6a2 19.Rd1d2 {+00,00/3_12} Ra5a8 20.f2f3 {-00,08/3_12} Rf4f8 21.Qd3d5 {-00,04/3_12} Qa2d5 22.e4d5 {-00,04/4_13} Nc6a5 23.Ne1d3 {-00,04/5_14} Na5c4 24.Rd2e2 {-00,04/5_14} Ra8a5 25.Nd3b4 {-00,04/4_13} Ra5c5 26.Rf1f2 {+00,00/3_12} Kh8g8 27.Re2e4 {+00,00/6_15} b6b5 28.Re4e2 {+00,00/4_13} Rf8f6 29.Rf2f1 {+00,04/3_12} Rf6f5 30.Rf1e1 {+00,04/3_12} Kg8f7 31.Kg1f2 {+00,04/3_12} g7g6 32.Kf2g3 {+00,04/3_12} Nc4b6 33.Re1d1 {-00,16/3_12} Kf7g7 34.h2h3 {+00,00/3_12} Rf5f7 35.Rd1d2 {-00,28/3_12} Rc5c4 36.Rd2d1 {-00,32/4_13} Rf7f8 37.Nb4c2 {+00,00/3_12} Rc4f4 38.h3h4 {+00,00/4_13} Nb6c4 39.Nc2b4 {-00,32/3_12} Rf4f5 40.b2b3 {-00,32/4_13} Nc4b6 41.Rd1d3 {-00,32/3_12} Rf5f7 42.Nb4c2 {-00,32/5_14} Rf7f4 43.Rd3d1 {-00,36/3_12} Nb6d7 44.Rd1b1 {-00,36/4_13} Nd7f6 45.Re2d2 {-00,40/3_12} Nf6h5 46.Kg3h3 {-00,36/3_12} Rf4f7 47.Kh3h2 {-00,36/4_13} Rf8a8 48.Rb1f1 {-00,36/4_13} Rf7f6 49.g2g3 {-00,45/3_12} c7c5 50.Kh2h3 {-00,45/5_14} b7b6 51.Kh3g2 {-00,50/3_12} Rf6f8 52.Rf1b1 {-00,45/3_12} Rf8f7 53.c3c4 {-00,28/3_12} b5c4 54.b3c4 {-00,28/4_13} Ra8a6 55.Rd2d3 {-00,28/4_13} Nh5f6 56.Rd3b3 {-00,28/4_13} Nf6d7 57.Nc2e3 {-00,28/4_13} Rf7f8 58.Ne3d1 {-00,28/4_13} Ra6a4 59.Nd1b2 {-00,45/4_13} Ra4a7 60.Nb2d1 {-00,45/5_14} Kg7f7 61.Nd1c3 {-00,45/4_13} Kf7e7 62.Rb1e1 {-00,45/4_13} Rf8a8 63.a3a4 {-00,08/4_13} Ra8f8 64.f3f4 {-00,08/3_12} Ra7a6 65.Rb3a3 {-00,08/4_13} Rf8f5 66.Re1e4 {-00,12/3_12} g6g5 67.f4e5 {-00,45/4_13} Nd7e5 68.h4g5 {-00,45/5_14} h6g5 69.Ra3a1 {-00,45/5_14} Ke7d7 70.Ra1h1 {-00,36/4_13} Ra6a8 71.Rh1h7 {-00,36/4_13} Rf5f7 72.Rh7f7 {-00,36/4_13} Ne5f7 73.Re4g4 {-00,36/5_14} Ra8g8 74.Nc3b5 {-00,64/6_15} Nf7e5 75.Rg4e4 {-00,64/7_16} Rg8h8 76.Nb5c3 {-00,64/5_14} Rh8f8 77.Nc3b5 {-00,64/5_14} Rf8e8 78.Nb5c3 {-00,64/5_14} Re8h8 79.Nc3d1 {-00,92/5_14} Rh8a8 80.Nd1b2 {-00,60/5_14} Ra8f8 81.Re4e1 {-00,60/5_14} g5g4 82.Re1e4 {-00,60/6_15} Rf8f3 83.Re4g4 {-00,60/5_14} Rf3b3 84.Rg4g7 {-00,60/8_17} Kd7e8 85.Nb2d1 {-01,50/5_14} Rb3a3 86.Rg7h7 {-01,50/4_13} Ne5c4 87.Rh7h4 {-01,50/6_15} Ra3a4 88.Nd1c3 {-01,50/6_15} Ra4b4 89.Rh4e4 {-01,50/5_14} Ke8d8 90.Kg2h3 {+00,00/4_13} Kd8d7 91.Re4f4 {+00,00/5_14} Nc4e3 92.Rf4f7 {-01,64/5_14} Kd7c8 93.Rf7f3 {-01,64/5_14} Ne3g4 94.Rf3f4 {-01,64/6_15} Rb4f4 95.g3f4 {-01,64/8_17} Ng4f6 96.Kh3h4 {-01,64/7_16} Kc8d7 97.f4f5 {-01,64/7_16} Kd7e7 98.Kh4g5 {-01,76/6_15} Ke7f7 99.Nc3b5 {-01,76/7_16} Kf7g7 100.Nb5d6 {-01,76/6_15} Nf6d5 101.Nd6e8 {-01,76/8_17} Kg7f8 102.Ne8d6 {-01,84/7_16} Kf8e7 103.Nd6c8 {-01,84/6_15} Ke7d7 104.f5f6 {-01,84/7_16} Kd7e6 105.Kg5g6 {-01,84/7_16} Nd5f6 106.Nc8b6 {-01,84/7_16} Nf6e4 107.Kg6h5 {-04,88/7_16} Ke6d6 108.Kh5g4 {-04,80/7_16} Kd6c6 109.Nb6c4 {-04,80/7_16} Kc6d5 110.Nc4b6 {-04,80/7_16} Kd5d4 111.Kg4f5 {-04,80/7_16} Ne4d2 112.Kf5e6 {-04,72/6_15} Nd2f3 113.Ke6f5 {-04,72/6_15} Nf3h4 114.Kf5e6 {-04,72/6_15} Nh4g2 115.Ke6d7 {-04,84/7_16} Ng2e3 116.Kd7c6 {-04,84/6_15} Ne3f5 117.Kc6b5 {-04,84/7_16} Nf5d6 118.Kb5c6 {-04,76/6_15} Nd6c4 119.Nb6c8 {-04,80/7_16} Nc4e5 120.Kc6c7 {-04,80/7_16} Ne5d3 121.Nc8b6 {-04,76/6_15} Nd3f2 122.Kc7c6 {-04,60/6_15} Nf2e4 123.Kc6d7 {-04,60/6_15} Ne4f6 124.Kd7d6 {-04,68/6_15} Nf6h5 125.Kd6c6 {-04,68/8_17} Nh5f4 126.Nb6c8 {-04,68/7_16} Kd4c4 127.Nc8d6 {-04,68/9_18} Kc4b4 128.Kc6b6 {-04,68/6_15} Nf4g6 129.Kb6b7 {-04,60/6_15} Ng6e5 130.Kb7a6 {-04,60/8_17} Ne5f3 131.Ka6a7 {-04,64/6_15} Nf3d2 132.Ka7a6 {-04,76/6_15} Nd2b3 133.Ka6b7 {-04,76/7_16} Nb3d4 134.Kb7b6 {-04,76/6_15} Nd4e6 135.Kb6b7 {-04,50/6_15} Ne6g5 136.Kb7c6 {-04,50/8_17} Ng5f3 137.Kc6b7 {-04,55/6_15} Nf3g1 138.Kb7c6 {-04,55/9_18} Ng1e2 139.Kc6d5 {-04,55/7_16} Ne2c3 140.Kd5c6 {-04,55/7_16} Nc3b1 141.Nd6f5 {-04,45/7_16} Nb1d2 142.Nf5e3 {-04,45/6_15} Nd2b3 143.Kc6d6 {-04,45/6_15} Kb4b5 144.Kd6d5 {-04,45/6_15} Nb3d4 145.Ne3c4 {-04,40/6_15} Nd4c2 146.Nc4d6 {-04,40/9_18} Kb5b4 147.Nd6c4 {-04,40/7_16} Nc2e1 148.Nc4a5 {-04,40/7_16} Ne1d3 149.Na5c6 {-04,40/7_16} Kb4b3 150.Nc6e5 {-03,00/7_16} 1/2-1/2
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